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DaveXLD

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Hi,

I have purchased DBSEO today in order to migrate from VBSEO.
I did the migration right now in my production environment and it seems to be OK.

BUT I have seen that my archives thread links are not rewritten the same way than when browsing normaly.
My fear is to have duplicate content due to that.

I have not found the option in DBSEO allowing to activate archive rewriting like in the forum.

How to do that??

Many thanks in advance for your help.

David
 
We recommend that you disable the vB archives, as inherently it will produce duplicate content, even if it was rewritten.

The archive actually no longer serves its original purpose, as search engines no longer need (and in some cases, penalise) a dedicated archive with only the essential links in order to crawl a site.

When the archive was first included in vBulletin, a trick used to improve SEO was to create a "link trap" for search engine bots, by linking to the Archive and making sure there were no links leading OUT of the archive. This meant the bots would crawl the same links over and over again, pushing them higher in the rankings.
vBSEO was a product with such a feature, if you've ever seen forums that had a bunch of links in their footers that looked like a row of numbers, and the links led to the archive, that was it.
The algorithms were changed years ago to actively penalise sites for doing this. With the sitemap feature in DBSEO, as well as recent changes & improvements in search engine bot algorithms, bots should be instructed to crawl the actual content, because that's what you want your users to see.

From a purely user point of view: If you search for something in Google, find a thread, then discover it's the Archive, you're forced to click the "view full thread" link in order to see quotes correctly (quotes are horribly confusing looking in the archive), as well as rich media like images and video.
While you personally may be fine with doing this, studies have shown that the average user has a very short attention span when it comes to finding the information they need. If a page takes too long to load, or they have to click links in order to actually view the information they're looking for, they are very likely to simply leave the site rather than go through that extra effort.

That is, unless that result is literally the only relevant result for their search, which in most cases is unlikely.
 
Hi,

I have to trust you now than I have choosen DBSEO to replace VBSEO. ;-)

OK I have deactivated archives but I have some points on which I would like to have your opinion.

as inherently it will produce duplicate content, even if it was rewritten.
I do not think because I had the following setup in VBSEO concerning Archives :

Rewrite + 301 Redirect Archive Pages
This is a combination of options 1 and 2 (above). This option rewrites URLs so that original content is linked from within the archives AND also adds 301 redirects to the archive thread pages. Therefore, (a) it works as a sitemap for the static site and (b) it ensures that incoming links pointing to the old archive thread pages are redirected to the new, static pages also.

In my point of view this option allowed to avoid duplicate content from archives because the links to the threads were directly directed to the original thread.
So it was great in order to avoid to have to go deeply in the forum to find the threads.
My maximum link depth in the forum was 4-5 clicks.

On the other hand I had never activated sitemap in VBSEO, I will in DBSEO and I am looking forward to see impact in Google.
I hope it will be positive.
My forum is now 10 years old so google is my best friend.
I do not want to disappoint him by going to DBSEO. :)

Regards

David
 
From the description, I suspect that feature was created before vBSEO's sitemap addon was created.
 
Hi Fillip H.,
I do not know but, in terms of SEO, my point of view is that, even by having a sitemap, Google will determine the position of the URL in terms of depth.
It is here that archives has a sense by making the pages a better place, less in depth compared to the home page.
I am not a specialist but it is something which seems logic to me. :).
David
 
It takes 3 clicks to get to a thread from the forum home, of course excluding threads on page 2 or more.

From what I've seen in Google Webmaster Tools, each sitemap entry is indexed directly.
 
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