Alternative to vBSEO

[Viceroy]

Since vBSEO is practically dead Dragonbyte-Tech should create an alternative mod with the same purpose and that works in the same way.

 

[CharlieDelta]

Here is some interesting and disturbing news about vBSEO. Dear Forum Community - vBSEO is Suspending Operations - YouTube

 

[avalanch07]

Anyways, despite the obvious news, I agree about the idea of dragonbyte tech making a vbseo alternative. I think dbseo sounds like a good choice

 

[Mick]

Hi,

This is a great idea, the reason why is that VBSEO has left everyone high and dry with there product!

It is such a shame that they have left everyone without anyway of removing the product without losing all your google ranking as URLS will revert to the original standard, without deep htaccess or nginx modification.

And Also there is so much more SEO that could be added to the product.

You can Call it

DragonSEO

And have an importer, I'll buy it

I can Imagine it would be a big job though and not one that dragonbytes would take lightly!!!

Regards
Mick

 

[Cosmic]

Watch this space

 

[Ozzy47]

Man you are such a tease.

 

[CharlieDelta]

Interesting.

 

[Force]

I am sure it will be better than vbseo and a lot easier to uninstall not like vbseo as u lose a lot when u do remove it. Cant wait until its out will go for pro

 

[Mick]

Music to my ears!

This is something that is so important to serious VBulletin Owners!

There is so much that is missing too like breadcrumbs, and rich snippets.

Better replacement, and if they could reduce the impact on server load - as VBSEO is quite heavy as a front end.

Even better would be able to use the Custom URLS and get rid of the whole VBSEO.php file that calls every time a page is loaded

Just really glad to hear this could be something in the pipe line!

Well Done Dragonbytes!

Mick

 

[Fillip H.]

Better replacement, and if they could reduce the impact on server load - as VBSEO is quite heavy as a front end.

Even better would be able to use the Custom URLS and get rid of the whole VBSEO.php file that calls every time a page is loaded

I just want to point out that neither of these things are really possible to improve upon.

Without "taking over" each page load, there's really no way to ensure rewrites are completed properly. Checking the page content for every possible URL combination is also required, otherwise search engines see the "old" URLs and you gain no benefit from the mod whatsoever.

 

[Mick]

Would you consider the following features?

Image Sprites Integration, is very nice for SEO scoring. to be able to put more than the status icons would be great!
URL Replacements for all your Modifications (yes alot lol).
NGINX - please support it.
Cache the settings with vboptimise?

Help integrate loading items better?
https://developers.google.com/speed/docs/best-practices/rtt?csw=1#PutStylesBeforeScripts

Thank you

Mick

 

[Ozzy47]

Taken from the last blog, Special Announcement & Offer, Classifieds / vBActivity / APTL Updates, UserTag Bugfix - Blogs - DragonByte Tech | vBulletin Mods & Addons

The first version of DragonByte SEO will focus on 100% compatibility with existing rewrite rules, and we have many plans for the future. Among the plans are URL Rewrite Rule History - allowing you to change URL Rewrite Rules without losing any ranking as old URLs will seamlessly redirect and Persistent SEO Titles - every generated URL will be stored and editable, freeing you from the constraint of existing rewrite rules.

So basically, the initial beta will be to make sure everything works correctly.

After that is determined, then it will be time to add new features to the mod.

I am almost certain there will be a closed beta, but Fillip H. will know for sure.

 

[Fillip H.]

Image Sprites Integration, is very nice for SEO scoring. to be able to put more than the status icons would be great!

I don't know what you mean by this, sorry

URL Replacements for all your Modifications (yes alot lol).

This is likely to be added to a future version

NGINX - please support it.

We currently don't have the resources required to support nginx due to the fact that we do not have a server where nginx is running.

Cache the settings with vboptimise?

That is impossible, since these kind of mods run before vBulletin is initialised.

Help integrate loading items better?
https://developers.google.com/speed/docs/best-practices/rtt?csw=1#PutStylesBeforeScripts

I strongly doubt we'd ever implement anything like this because of the numerous issues involved in attempting to dynamically change the HTML source in such a way.

It's also why vB4 SuperCharged causes innumerable issues with custom modifications, because it attempts to move JS code to the footer because a website claims this is a good idea, and then it turns out a lot of JS breaks because it's dependent on being loaded at a specific point in the document

 

[Mick]

HI Fillip H.,

Sprites:
Css Image Sprites are when you take a whole load of your web pages images and consolidate them into one image (basically).

This ranks high for SEO because your loads times will drastically improve, as the http requests will be dramatically reduced.

For example this page (that we are on):

http://www.dragonbyte-tech.com/f101/alternative-vbulletin-seo-11931/index2.html

has the following requests called on first view... and your load time for a first time viewer to showthread.php is 12 seconds!

• image 271
• js 38
• css 19
• html 19
• other 2
• flash 0
• text 0

Imagine taking that 271 and turning that into 1 big image sprite - and another great thing would be the compression you could easily compress it down to much more than the single images would add up too!

Would be great to have our forums using sprites!

NGINX:
So would this modification not be compatible at all or just not supported for nginx

 

[Fillip H.]

Css Image Sprites are when you take a whole load of your web pages images and consolidate them into one image (basically).

This would be an extreme drain on performance. CSS Sprites need to be implemented on a template level, dynamically rewriting this would be orders of magnitude worse than leaving them as separate images.

So would this modification not be compatible at all or just not supported for nginx

nginx users would need to create their own config rules in order to properly redirect content, beyond that it should work as normal.

 

[sendur]

If it's gonna be a migrate-to dragonbyte SEO from vbSEO product, i'd buy it at once! I'm pretty concerned about vbseo discontinuing it's product (site with 80k members and 1.5mil posts).......

 

[Steris56]

very interesting if db is doing this i would get in on this indeed

 

[Fillip H.]

If it's gonna be a migrate-to dragonbyte SEO from vbSEO product, i'd buy it at once! I'm pretty concerned about vbseo discontinuing it's product (site with 80k members and 1.5mil posts).......

The first version will aim at compatibility with vBSEO's URL Rewrite rules. We are porting all the various URL format settings, and have an importer available to import your vBSEO settings into DBSEO

We're not making v1 an 1:1 port of vBSEO, however. A lot of the more niche, useless or downright harmful features in it will not be making an appearance on DBSEO, such as Linkbacks/Pingbacks/Refbacks and (obviously) the Likes system. We're being advised by Professional vBulletin Services & Affordable SEO Solutions | SEOvB.com as to what features are beneficial and what features to keep.

 

[sendur]

. A lot of the more niche, useless or downright harmful features in it will not be making an appearance on DBSEO, such as Linkbacks/Pingbacks/Refbacks and (obviously) the Likes system.

Hmm, can i migrate from the likes system of vbseo to you like product?

 

[Fillip H.]

Hmm, can i migrate from the likes system of vbseo to you like product?

Yeah, our Advanced Post Thanks / Like has an importer from both Abe's Post Thank You Hack (for Thanks) and vBSEO (for Likes) available in the free version