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    Ok Decado thank you for your explanation!
    Attending a stable vb version...
    Excuse my bad english, i'm from Italy!

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    I have purchased a xenoforo license, and I am very glad to see that dragon bytes is receptive to it as well and are maintaining there priority to support current customers. I will likely launch a new forum with xenoforo when my current add ons are ready for it. and I expect I will purchase a new license for the new URL.

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    Hey all!

    I'm glad I found this thread.

    I am one of the ones bailing on vB - just not fast. I have four licenses and as I can, they are being switched to Xenforo. I've started work on my first board as of today.

    I understand your previous post and as an ongoing vB customer appreciate it... I am crossing my fingers that your post templates mod gets updated for Xenforo soon! I use it in places of forms in lots of cases.

    Regards,

    Alisa

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    Attending a stable vb version...
    Excuse my bad english, i'm from Italy!

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    100% false.

    There WAS a member with the name "dragonbyte" using our old logo for his signature etc, he's taken all of that down at my request though.

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    Bleh, XenForo...

    Maybe it's just because it's the first version = but I don't care for it.
    Yeah, it's clean = so clean it almost seems basic
    Yeah it's pretty = if not having buttons, stats and info everywhere equals pretty
    Yeah, it's slimmer = new code base, so of course it's slimmer - wait a couple versions for the bloat to set in

    To me, this is the Firefox or Google Chrome of the Forum world.
    Froofy people will want to feel special and run something, ANYTHING that isn't IE.
    But when something breaks - or doesn't work = back to IE they go.

    As a network engineer, I want buttons, stats and options available everywhere.
    Basic users may prefer the dumbed down Facebook like appearance, but the power users will always want the tools right there...... and who's your most active/best users? The fanatics or the casual?

    I think it's great DBTECH is branching out - just for the reason that it shows they're doing well.
    I'll be 100% VB as far out as I can see...... and I look forward to 5.x whenever that shows up.

    Like it or not, VB is the Microsoft or Cisco of the forum world - and people always throw tomatoes at the biggest player.
    The thing about the biggest players = they don't go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddybird292 View Post
    To me, this is the Firefox or Google Chrome of the Forum world.
    Froofy people will want to feel special and run something, ANYTHING that isn't IE.
    But when something breaks - or doesn't work = back to IE they go.
    Hardly, I went to Opera xD

    But what with FF4 being as good as it is, I might just switch back to that...
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    To me, this is the Firefox or Google Chrome of the Forum world.
    Froofy people will want to feel special and run something, ANYTHING that isn't IE.
    But when something breaks - or doesn't work = back to IE they go.
    VB= IE? Firefox=Xenforo? Very original comparison but...

    Like it or not, VB is the Microsoft or Cisco of the forum world - and people always throw tomatoes at the biggest player.
    A inappropriate comparison...on the web world you can be the king today, but just tomorrow being obsolete.In the past 10 years, PHP-Nuke are considered one of the best CMS. Now there are Drupal, Joomla and Wordpress.

    In the past 5 years, every webmaster of an e-commerce website talks about Ecommerce and like it. Now there are Magento, and many many webmasters switched to Magento.

    Few months ago, i considered Cometchat a superb chat...now i have discovered Arrowchat that are a new product, and i think is far superior.

    The web changes fast.

    I like much the dbt product, and waited many month for launching my project to buy many of this...but i think that the platform is more important to mods, and vb is outdated (vb 5? you have to wait 2012! )
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    Attending a stable vb version...
    Excuse my bad english, i'm from Italy!

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    I understand what you're saying = the web IS fast.

    But your comparing what I'd call a "flash in the pan" to over reaching tech.

    Look at the "Linux is going to rule the world - Microsoft is toast" talk from a couple years ago. Where is Linux now? On webservers..... and.... oh yeah, that's it.
    That's after it got support and big money from the likes of Novell, Red Hat and others. Expect for the tomato throwers - everyone's on Mac or Win7 (soon to be Win8).

    Look at IBM and mainframe/performance computing, they said "mainframe computing is dead - Cray rocks, SGI is the bomb", wouldn't you know it know it, Cray is dead, SGI is dead, and IBM mainframes are back (they never left)".

    Xenforo, PHPbbs and all the others may have an impact in the short term = but in the long term, VB will win. Whatever VB needs will be adopted, stolen, whatever.
    Look at MySpace, the big daddy. Well big daddy is almost dead.
    Facebook will suffer the same fate, and once Facebook is gone - you think that XenForo (which looks like it, is plugged directly into it, and which relies on that as it's biggest feature) will survive?
    I don't think so.
    It's all flavor of the week = scoop of the day nonsense.
    All the new forums with updated CMS's, fancy graphics, or just wow factor doesn't change the fact that 90% of these (if not all), will end up on the scrap heap in the long term.
    Their "revolutionary" features will become standard secondary features to be used at the discretion of the Webmaster (think tabbed browsing: which Opera invented - and now everyone has).
    A cool new "killer" feature is great - until everyone else clones it, and your left holding an empty bag.

    Just my opinion,

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    Just going to pop in with my opinion on this:

    The facebook integration on XF isn't much more than the same integration in new builds of vBulletin, it's just a little more obvious on XenForo.

    XF has the advantage of being designed and coded by 2 of the most influential guys behind vBulletin 3.x. Innovation with new vB versions seems to have slowed down quite a bit since the Internet Brands takeover.

    I think XF has all the tools to eventually compete with vBulletin, but it's far too early to start suggesting thats the case already.
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