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Hi,

We recently started making use of the lottery feature. We have members asking who won the lottery since it says we had a few winners - we could not locate anywhere in the ACP to find who won. Since members do not remember what numbers they chose (and although my numbers showed up for me, others are saying they cannot view their numbers in the 'more information' link).

Is there any way for us to check?

Thanks!
 
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I don't believe such a display exists at the moment. Users who won will receive a PM notifying them, however.
 
Sorry for a double post, but just in case the last one was already read - members are reporting that although their points increased they did not receive any PMs.

Is there a setting I need to enable to ensure they are getting them?
 
I just checked the code and it appears as if I was wrong regarding a PM being sent to lottery winners. I'll change this to a Feature Request so that we can get this implemented for a future version.
 
what a joke i hope you guys remove this or fix it..

As admin we cant see who won? the system doest auto pay the payouts? there is no transparency for users? this incomplete mod needs to be removed or finished ASAP
 
As admin we cant see who won?
That's correct.
the system doest auto pay the payouts?
Yes, it does.
there is no transparency for users?
Define transparency.

this incomplete mod needs to be removed or finished ASAP
I could say the same thing about your attitude :)

You are cross-posting from vBulletin.org complaining about a FREE modification not having a feature set that you desire for your forum. Furthermore, you are being highly insulting in doing so, using confrontational language. I would very much like to hear your explanation as to why you believe your behaviour is acceptable.

If you would like the feature set altered, you have the option to wait until we implement your feature requests, or pay us to implement it sooner. What you do not have is the option to behave in this manner and expect us to rush to appease someone that has done nothing but be offensive towards us and the work we put into this modification.

I would strongly advise you to re-think the way you word your enquiries in the future, even when dealing with large corporations such as Microsoft or Sony, as the people who will be handling your enquiry are in fact human beings such as yourself, not robots. I'm sure you would not enjoy being spoken to in the manner you've spoken to us, so please refrain from using this tone in the future.

Thank you for your understanding and your cooperation.
 
As admin we cant see who won?
That's correct.

and that is normal to release a lottery modification that the admin cannot even see who wins?


he system doest auto pay the payouts?
Yes, it does.

[B]It does not on my forum.. will double check could be a setting on my end but doubt it since it takes "credits" when I purchase tickets.
[/B]



there is no transparency for users?
Define transparency.


Definition of 'Transparency'

The extent to which investors have ready access to any required financial information about a company such as price levels, market depth and audited financial reports. Classically defined as when "much is known by many", transparency is one of the silent prerequisites of any free and efficient market.

When transparency relates to information flow from the company to investors, it is also known as "full disclosure".

Transparency helps to prevent the corruption that inevitably occurs when a select few have access to important information, allowing them to use it for personal gain. Reduced price volatility also tends to be a byproduct of a transparent market because all the market participants can base decisions of value on the same data.

There are dozens of federal regulations in place to ensure transparency in our markets. Companies also have a strong motivation to provide disclosure, as transparency is generally rewarded through the stock's performance.



You are cross-posting from vBulletin.org complaining about a FREE modification not having a feature set that you desire for your forum. Furthermore, you are being highly insulting in doing so, using confrontational language. I would very much like to hear your explanation as to why you believe your behaviour is acceptable.

In my experience I dont get replies at vbulletin forums that is why i decide to log in here and ask these questions.. I appreciate the time that went into this product and I bet it would be awesome if it was complete. I am sorry that I came across as being RUDE but I am a customer who has tried out a product and I felt as if I had waisted my time installing this because it was incomplete.

If this was my site I would be embarrassed that one of my coders released a product that was half done. I feel as if this should of been left out until it was 100% done.



If you would like the feature set altered, you have the option to wait until we implement your feature requests, or pay us to implement it sooner. What you do not have is the option to behave in this manner and expect us to rush to appease someone that has done nothing but be offensive towards us and the work we put into this modification.

I have contacted your company int he past looking to hire you for custom work.. weeks later I get a reply saying another coder would contact me. None the less I have paid over $6K dollars doing various projects that I tried to hire you for and you failed to reply.

I would strongly advise you to re-think the way you word your enquiries in the future, even when dealing with large corporations such as Microsoft or Sony, as the people who will be handling your enquiry are in fact human beings such as yourself, not robots. I'm sure you would not enjoy being spoken to in the manner you've spoken to us, so please refrain from using this tone in the future.

"what a joke i hope you guys remove this or fix it..

As admin we cant see who won? the system doest auto pay the payouts? there is no transparency for users? this incomplete mod needs to be removed or finished ASAP"

I guess you could take that the wrong way.. sorry if you feel as if I disrespected you and your company.. please understand that as a customer I was excited to see this mod and the ability to have the lottery feature.. and how upset I was to find out it was not complete.








If you posted a lottery modification on your site... how many would you sell if the users knew..

As admin you do not know who wins the lottery
There are no notifications to let anyone know they won the lottery
I have no idea how many credits the lottery has made for the house
And as far as I can tell you have to manually pay out the prizes.. but you dont know who won.
0 Transparency - users can see 1 person won but they dont know who.. user will think we are scamming them?
 
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and that is normal to release a lottery modification that the admin cannot even see who wins?
Clearly, it is :)

B]It does not on my forum.. will double check could be a setting on my end but doubt it since it takes "credits" when I purchase tickets.
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That could be an issue with the cron job, it could fail to run on your site for any reason.

Definition of 'Transparency'

The extent to which investors have ready access to any required financial information about a company such as price levels, market depth and audited financial reports. Classically defined as when "much is known by many", transparency is one of the silent prerequisites of any free and efficient market.

When transparency relates to information flow from the company to investors, it is also known as "full disclosure".

Transparency helps to prevent the corruption that inevitably occurs when a select few have access to important information, allowing them to use it for personal gain. Reduced price volatility also tends to be a byproduct of a transparent market because all the market participants can base decisions of value on the same data.

There are dozens of federal regulations in place to ensure transparency in our markets. Companies also have a strong motivation to provide disclosure, as transparency is generally rewarded through the stock's performance.
Yes, I'm fully able to look up a Wikipedia definition myself. I thought it was obvious that I was referring to transparency in the context of the lottery part of vBShop, but clearly not :)

In my experience I dont get replies at vbulletin forums that is why i decide to log in here and ask these questions.. I appreciate the time that went into this product and I bet it would be awesome if it was complete. I am sorry that I came across as being RUDE but I am a customer who has tried out a product and I felt as if I had waisted my time installing this because it was incomplete.

If this was my site I would be embarrassed that one of my coders released a product that was half done. I feel as if this should of been left out until it was 100% done.
Wait, so your response to being told that the modification is complete, it just doesn't have the features you want, and that your message came across as rude is to... repeat what you said in a slightly different, but equally rude manner. Okay then.

I have contacted your company int he past looking to hire you for custom work.. weeks later I get a reply saying another coder would contact me. None the less I have paid over $6K dollars doing various projects that I tried to hire you for and you failed to reply.
I'm not sure why you make these claims, when you know we have the ability to check, and verify your claims as false.

You contacted us once, regarding a custom job for DragonByte Classifieds. You received a reply saying another coder would contact you 3 hours and 30 minutes later. Geography was never my strong suit, but I'm fairly certain there exists no place on this planet where 3h30m constitutes "weeks later".

"what a joke i hope you guys remove this or fix it..

As admin we cant see who won? the system doest auto pay the payouts? there is no transparency for users? this incomplete mod needs to be removed or finished ASAP"

I guess you could take that the wrong way.. sorry if you feel as if I disrespected you and your company.. please understand that as a customer I was excited to see this mod and the ability to have the lottery feature.. and how upset I was to find out it was not complete.
There is only one way to take it, there is no "wrong" way to take it. Also, as far as I'm aware, you are not our customer. In your own words, the custom work was never started, so you have not given us any money.

If you were a customer and were dissatisfied with the feature set due to misunderstandings regarding the feature set, we would attempt to accommodate you by offering you the equivalent purchase amount in store credit towards other purchases, and remove your vBShop Pro licence.

As you have not given us any money in the past, we have no store credit to offer you, and while you have every right to feel disappointed, you have no right to express that disappointment in this manner.

If you posted a lottery modification on your site... how many would you sell if the users knew..

As admin you do not know who wins the lottery
There are no notifications to let anyone know they won the lottery
I have no idea how many credits the lottery has made for the house
And as far as I can tell you have to manually pay out the prizes.. but you dont know who won.
0 Transparency - users can see 1 person won but they dont know who.. user will think we are scamming them?
We have hundreds, if not thousands, of satisfied vBShop customers and users of the free version. Conversely, the amount of people wanting an expanded feature set for lotteries is significantly less than the amount of satisfied customers and users.
 
in regards to me contacting you and you contacting me back in 3 hours you are correct I went back and looked in my logs and I apologize for that. But you coders never contacted me back.

So its not my FAULT that i am not a customer.. it is your team that dropped the ball.

I hired vbninja and paid him $2k for this one mod and you can verify that with him.

I have invested over $6k to modify your mods and that $$ could be in your pocket. Not sure why you would go as far and say people that dont pay you are not your customers.. If it were me I would think of everyone one of these people a customer. Maybe not a paying customer but they are a customer and their input would matter to me.


And yes other features of your mod works great but why include a incomplete item like the lottery.

And I know that I am not the only one that feels this way about the lottery and you can say how this is complete all you want but without a doubt.. it is not. (the lottery aspect that is)

You can candy coat it and make it smell like watermelon but the lottery product is not complete. But no worries I just hired another dev for $600 to complete it for you. If anyone is reading this and would like the fix just msg me.

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