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New Forms mod, vBOptimise 2.5.0 Open Beta, AUT & APTL updates, new closed beta

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Not too much news for you this week, but the biggest item is likely the release of DragonByte vBForms v1 Beta. This mod is based on the core of our vBsupport system - the system you guys use whenever you start a thread here. It's very customisable and can be altered for a bunch of uses - from creating classified ads complete with statuses for when an item is for sale, under offer or sold, to designating fields as required or non-essential, to displaying various statuses on the subforum page alongside the thread titles. It's a mod the majority of forums will find a use for, letting you get the vital info for every thread on a per forum basis. You can read all about it here.

Remember you can now give the ACP side a try on our Demo Board. Login is username: admin password: demo

In news almost as big we would like to announce the release of #vBOptimise v2.5 - it caches a few more areas of the forum (e.g who has read thread, who has visited forum) and now integrates with #AUT and #APTL to help optimise their statistics features. AUT and APTL also underwent small updates - Read more on all 3 here.

We're also happy to announce the launch of the Closed Beta for our upcoming Advanced Registrations mod - there are still a couple of spots left so if you are interested in jumping in let us know in the comments! More info here.

Lastly we would like to say thank you to the users who take the time to rate and nominate our mods on vb.org even when they download/use them here on DBTech. There are a number of trolls on vb.org who will simply 1 star everything DBTech releases BECAUSE it was released by DBTech, so you guys taking the time to rate & nominate our mods is appreciated. If you'd like to rate our mods you can see a list of them on our vbulletin.org profile here: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/membe...&userid=373913

Whats Going On

@Belazor is working on an update to #vBShop and a new mod.
@Dylan is stillworking on DragonByte #Gallery 1.1
@Darkwaltz4 is still working on the #vBArcade v2 closed beta.
@Ozzy47 is still working on making #vBNavTabs for vb 4.2 Lite.
@bszopi is continuing work on a new major version of vBSlider.
@Pandemikk is working on his #registrations mod closed beta
@Mokonzi is working on his new project.
@the-danzor is still working on a new skin and should have a mock up in the few weeks hopefully.

Coming Soon

DragonByte Gallery 1.1 in the next month or so
Questions & Answers mod from @Belazor in the next few weeks.
Registration mod open beta in the next 2-3 weeks.
vBArcade v2 open beta in the next few weeks.
vBSlider v3 Beta in the next few weeks
PM management mod in the next few weeks
vBShop v3 in the next couple of weeks
New skin in the next month.


Decado's Corner

It's been a weird few weeks. We know vB5 alpha/beta is coming soon so i'm trying to avoid starting any new large projects so the guys aren't too tied up when it appears - totally messing with how i like to do my schedules though! The plan is to try to have all or most of our mods ready to go when vB5 goes gold, so there is as little disruption to our customers as possible.

That leads me onto a question, do you guys feel the current vB3/vB4 licenses should carry over to vB5, or that there should be a small upgrade fee, or that they should be all new licenses? From a personal standpoint I lean towards them carrying over, from a business standpoint I lean towards a small upgrade fee because of the additional support workload likely to come from people trying to get used to how to work vB5 alongside the mods. Feedback is very much appreciated on this!

Gotta love the fact that Dylan's #Gallery mod got 3 1 star ratings from people who didn't even download/install the mod within a few hours of being released. There are trolls on vb.org who follow us around 1 starring all of our mods because they're made by us - the worst part is none of them have the excuse of being 12. I'm starting to think I should link to vb.org release threads in news threads and the blogs so the people who try the mods out here on DBTech will be more likely to head over and rate/nominate them on vb.org. Speaking of which - if you like our mods - either from using them here on DBT or from your own site, please do feel free to head over to our profile at vb.org and rate/nominate the ones you like: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/membe...&userid=373913 It only takes a few minutes and makes a BIG difference fighting back against the trolls. Again, feedback on whether the vb.org links are a good idea or other ideas you might have are appreciated too!

We searched long and hard for ways to improve vBO over the past couple of months and to be honest most things were ruled out. They either required lots of (often very specific depending on the server setup) file edits, or template edits, or would be regularly broken by vBulletin updates. We finally ended up with caching a few things which hadn't been cached before - Who has read thread and Who has visited forum, as well as implementing vBO caching in some of our mods the APTL and AUT statistics sections to be precise. For those of you who wonder why vBO seems to go a long time without updates, that's why - it's hard to find workable new features for it!

I've been playing a bunch of civ V again this week and MAN that game is addictive. In my current game my Byzantine Empire is drawing the ire of the Greeks, Aztecs AND Americans after a somewhat aggressive expansion plan saw me settle 2 new cities between the borders of those 3 nations. Oops. Still, my people demanded diamonds, and diamonds they shall have! We'll see how the Greek Hoplites fare against my superior technology!

I won't be around much next week as one of my oldest friends is coming to stay for a week before she heads back to the States - i'll still pop in now and then and if it's urgent @Belazor will contact me. Don't be afraid to hold off on contacting me about anything as usual, but if it's time sensitive run it through Belazor first to make sure it gets a quick response.

Hope you guys love #vBForms - I know a bunch of you will be able to make use of it!

I look forward to your comments & feedback as always!

Thanks for reading,

Iain & The DBTech Team
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  1. IcEWoLF's Avatar
    There is so much this week!
    vBOptimise 2.5.0 = sweetness!
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  2. CharlieDelta's Avatar
    Great work on more vBO integration.
    Excited about PM Management and Advanced Registration.

    This place is great.
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  3. GoodApples's Avatar
    Who is on the launch of the Closed Beta for our upcoming Advanced Registrations mod?
    I am available. I did throw my name in last week.

    In regards to if current vB3/vB4 licenses should carry over to vB5...well I am closing in on 20 Pro licenses and by the time vB5 goes Gold most likely more ...I may be broke.
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  4. CharlieDelta's Avatar
    From a customer stand point, I would like to see licenses carry over to VB5. I can appreciate and understand the time and cost incurred to upgrade everything.
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  5. hornstar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDelta
    From a customer stand point, I would like to see licenses carry over to VB5. I can appreciate and understand the time and cost incurred to upgrade everything.
    Agreed, from a customer stand point, I'd like the licenses to carry over too.

    From a business standpoint a small fee would have helped you guys, but I feel it may be a little late for such a change now. Maybe vb5 to vb6 can have a policy and price in place.
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  6. GoodApples's Avatar
    I am all set up for Advanced Registrations
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  7. Trekkan's Avatar
    I forgot to reply to the blog (I like let'n ya know it's being read and waited for. )

    Anyway, I'm really excited about the forms mod and the registration mod, as well as the upcoming mods, crazy good stuff from DBT, it's a machine and keeps on rolling! Thanks all DBT staff for your work!
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  8. Trekkan's Avatar
    Edit, forgot to comment on the pricing...

    I'm in agreement that as a customer, you never want to pay any more than you have to, but as a business, you need to get paid.

    That said, I think it's reasonable to charge a small upgrade cost (20% even) to help cover the work you have to do. I of course have no idea what's reasonable, but whatever helps you cut your losses, but also doesn't kill your customer base. It's reasonable to expect to pay for major upgrades, besides, people would CHOOSE to upgrade their forums and in doing so, shouldn't expect everything. Doesn't mean they won't expect it, and won't scream and cry about it though. =)

    Afterall, you don't have to upgrade your mods for VB5. Of course you will, it's your business. But the point is, you never said you'd support every VB version forever, for every mod you make. Anyone to expect that is just being an idiot.
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  9. IcEWoLF's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by hornstar
    Agreed, from a customer stand point, I'd like the licenses to carry over too.

    From a business standpoint a small fee would have helped you guys, but I feel it may be a little late for such a change now. Maybe vb5 to vb6 can have a policy and price in place.

    I think the licenses should definitely carry over to vB5, from a customer point of view this is the best decision.
    We all paid a very good amount of money to buy these premium addons.
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  10. Valcav's Avatar
    Would love to help beta-test, but the last 1-2 weeks & following I don't have much time to do anything... (to f****** freaking much on my freaking mind )

    In regards to if current vB3/vB4 licenses should carry over to vB5...well I am closing in on 20 Pro licenses and by the time vB5 goes Gold most likely more ...I may be broke.
    +- same here... I've got almost all pro licenses.... (I believe that the only one I don't have is: "Forumon RPG") and theres a possibility that I'll need to buy a few for a 2nd site too...

    also, rated all mods on vbulletin.org with Excellent...
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    Updated 7th July 2012 at 18:55 by Valcav
  11. Webbstre's Avatar
    I'm torn on the pricing thing. What's the policy on your modifications if you bought them for vbulletin but moved to xenforo? If there's no extra charge for that, then I suppose in a similar sense there shouldn't be any charge for the upgrade... unless you have a lifetime license?

    Yeah, really torn. It makes sense for a lifetime license to last the lifetime of that product series (vb 4.x). Also I don't think people on a month/year subscription should have to pay any more than they already do. Still, when you have a lot of lifetime licenses (and some people have way more than me even), even a small charge adds up.

    How about this: A small fee you can pay to extend your lifetime license to apply to vb 5.x, for up to five modifications, and then you just purchase as many of those as you need? So that it would cost less than it might if you have to pay to upgrade like 10 modifications individually.
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  12. Decado's Avatar
    Cheers for all the feedback guys - it's appreciated Just a note that the price we would be talking for upgrading the licenses would probably be $5/10 per licence, or 10% of the cost, whichever is *LESS*. That's *IF* we decide to go that route.

    Just now official policy in switching between XF and vB is the same as above, but it's not something we've actually done in practice yet.

    I'll probably defer on making a decision until we start actually transferring mods and see how much work is involved, then see how much extra support we get from our own beta testers compared to on vb4. If it's significant we'll probably be forced to put in a small charge, if there's not a huge difference in support volume between the two versions we'll probably get away with not charging anything.

    Heard loud and clear that you guys prefer no charge if possible though, and i'll do what I can to make that happen
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